As what we have previously discussed, the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) issued Revenue Memorandum Circular (RMC) No. 59-2015 to circularize the availability of:
- Update of Exemption of Employees (UEE) (BIR Form No. 2305) Data Entry Module
- 2305 Batch File Validation Module
UEE Data Entry Module is a data entry module where the employer inputs all the registration updates of exemption of its employees one by one with validation before sending electronically to the BIR. 2305 Batch File Validation Module, on the other hand, is a validation module of BIR Form 2305 for the CSV file generated by the employer using own extract program.
To download these resources click the following links:
Update of Exemption of Employees Data Entry Module
2305 Batch File Validation Module (.exe)
2305 Batch File Validation Module (.zip)
Job Aid – Batch Entry Module (Annex B)
Job Aid – Batch Data Entry Module (Annex A)
The high level guide on how to use the data entry module and the validation module and to submit the related reports, read our article on BIR introduces Form No. 2305 Data Entry and Validation Module.
Be reminded of the following:
- Employees can no longer visit and submit BIR Form No. 2305 to RDOs and LTDs
- BIR Form No. 2305 shall be filed electronically by the employer using any of the format provided in RMC No. 59-2015
- Reports generated should be transmitted via e-mail to BI**********@bi*.ph
- Employee shall submit the accomplished BIR Form 2305 together with the required documents to employer
- Employer validates the completeness of documents
- Submit the following every 10th of following month to the RDO or LTDs:
- Accomplished BIR Form 2305 signed by both employer and employee with attachments
- System-generated email notifcation
- Printed Monthly Alphalist of Employees and Information Update (Alpha_1) report
For more details please read our article on BIR introduces Form No. 2305 Data Entry and Validation Module.
Let us know what you think! 🙂
what should I do in this case?I really don’t know how to fix this.. please help
TIN : 446305051
BRANCH CODE : 00000
DATE : 11132017
FORM TYPE CODE : 2305
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ROW # ERROR DESCRIPTION
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0000000003 Email Address cannot be empty.
0000000003 Relationship Start Date Length is invalid. “09175701462”
0000000003 Relationship Start Date is invalid. Row value: “09175701462”
SUMMARY REPORT
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ROW ERROR DESCRIPTION
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1 Email Address cannot be empty
1 Relationship Start Date is invalid
1 Relationship Start Date length is invalid
COUNT DESCRIPTION
—– ————————————————–
3 TOTAL NUMBER OF RECORDS READ
2 VALID RECORDS
1 INVALID RECORDS
Hello po, paano po kapag invalid TIN in Data Entry? New employees po kasi tapos ang TIN issued by the BIR halimbawa ay 704-513-892. Ano pong dapat gawin, salamat po.
Hi, can someone please help me? When I choose CSV file when generating report, wala pong laman yung excel file tapos may napapansin akong sumusulpot na export.ini file. May naka-experience ba ng ganto? PLEASE HELP ME. kasi di ko napapansin yung file na sine-send ko sa BI**********@bi*.ph, blangko pala 🙁
Hello everyone! I need some help, I’ve been using this program for almost a year now and so far, I haven’t encountered any problems not until I change my pc with the same Microsoft Office version 2007. Every time I tried to open the BIRF2305 database access the message “Unrecognized database format” always pops-out. Can someone help me with this? Thank you.
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hi mga sir, tanong ko lang po kung required po i fill up yung email add. ng employee?. What if wala po talaga silang email add. ano pong pwedeng ilagay kasi hindi po siya nag ssave.
Thanks
yes but you can use the email-add of your office instead of the employees email-add .. it works on me
hi po. pano po magvalidate ng phone number?
put 02 in the beginning of our number
Hi, ask ko lng po meron pong lumalabas na error pg ino-open ko ung BIR2305.accdb na “Your microsoft access database or project contains a missing or broken reference file ‘2’ version 1.0” ano po b solution dito?? na-try ko na po ang iba’t-ibang version ng MS Office from 2010 – 2016. I also upgraded from Win8 to Win10, but still same problem exists. Pls help me nmn po. Thanks a lot in advance po sa makakatulong..
Hi. Try to check on my link. Maybe it will help on resolving the error. Here it is. https://olgamariae.com/2017/03/13/quick-fix-on-birf2305-accdb-error/
what i input for effective date and effectivity is the b-date of the exemptions that i’ve inputed.
In reply, effectivity date of exemption and effective date always has the same date as follows:
a) birthdate of the youngest qualified dependent-update of additional exemption
b) date of marriage – for update of marital status
c) date hired(relationship start date); single w/ no qualified dependent – update of employer information
your info are very useful 🙂
HELLO!!!
need help po, i cant log in…it always pop-up”the item is not in the list”
paanu pu tu???..thx.
add user first po. thank you po.
What if the dependent is pwd?
Hi. Tanong lang po regarding sa pag entry ng widow/er status. May empleyado kase kame na widow/er na babae. Everytime I changed her claims from husband to wife. Di sya nababago, nabalik into husband. Panu kaya yon? maraming salamat sa sasagot 🙂
good afternoon. Relationship start date is invalid. row value “contact no. namin”. email address cannot be empty, ganyan umh lumalabas nung vinalidate ko though filled up naman. what will i do? hoping for your prompt response. thanks
Pakitingin nalang sa comment q kay Faehmer Yaco Guilao tnz
Question po… ano po ilalagay sa Effectivity date of Exemption and sa Effective date??
same here.
ano po ilalagay sa “effective date” at “effective date of exemption”??
“effective date and relationship start” should be the same po, you can use the date kung kailan nyo po na update yong status ng employee, while sa “effective date of exemption” naman po is yong birthdate ng bunsong anak.
ano po ilalagay sa “effective date” at “effective date of exemption”?
Sa mga nakakatanggap ng ganito:
SUMMARY REPORT
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COUNT DESCRIPTION
———————————————————
0 TOTAL NUMBER OF RECORDS READ
0 VALID RECORDS
0 INVALID RECORDS
No data found.
ETO SOLUSYON JAN:
Pag nag-gegenerate kayo ng kahit na anong report lagi nyo tandaan ang ilalagay dun sa START DATE ay yung RELATIONSHIP START DATE tapos sa END DATE naman kahit yung TODAY na date nalang.. Thank you…
I saw this to other blog, you have to change calendar setting to the ff;
short date: M/d/yyyy
long date: dddd, MMMM dd, yyyy
But when I change mine, the summary report was like this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b4b5c3482092ce5105a615945437530d4ff8bfe0c98fc65285823c2d659633cc.png but I still send it to BIRFORM_2305 email and got system-generated email notification. So nut sure if that is valid. I email BIR but they haven’t replied yet.
still error po siya. salamat po ng marami.
sir orlando calundan, please help me, panu ko ma change yong erroneous na key-in ko na birthday data and name of dependents. thanks
SUMMARY REPORT
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COUNT DESCRIPTION
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0 TOTAL NUMBER OF RECORDS READ
0 VALID RECORDS
0 INVALID RECORDS
No data found.
BAKIT PO GANITO YUNG LUMALABAS AFTER AKO NG VALIDATE NAG CSV FILE
yan din ang problema ko. kainis
Hi, I hope this helps. Tumawag kc ako sa BIR. Ito mga pinagawa nila sa akin para makagenerate ng CSV file na may laman.
1. Save UEE Data Entry module sa desktop.
2. Change calendar setting
short date: M/d/yyyy
Long date: dddd, MMMM dd, yyyy
3. Ilagay sa start at end date kung anong araw ang igegenerate ( in my case 12/09/2016-12/09/2016. I tried 12/01/2016-12/31/2016 pero walang laman ang nagenerate ko.)
(For every step na gagawin, update employees records then generate. Open lang per employee record then save)
Help po sa tamang format ng pagtype po ng TIN no. lage po kasi sinasabi na tin cannot be empty. Help po. Please
if you’re inputing individual just input the first 9 digit of your TIN (i.e: 123-456-789); you havve to put 00000 on the branch code since its individual, but if Non-Individual, supply the 9 digit to the TIN portion and the remaining digit should be supplied at branch code since, possible that it would be 0000, or (i.e: 00200).
my problem is that “invalid input for effectivity date.” and “invalid input effectivity date of exemption”. i did try all the possible thing. gawing pareho iyong relatioship start dat and effective date and “effectivity date of exemption” as -today-, but still the the above mention (the 2 error) pop ups.
STILL ERROR
“effective date and relationship start” should be the same po, you can use the date kung kailan nyo po na update yong status ng employee, while sa “effective date of exemption” naman po is yong birthdate ng bunsong anak .. para naman po sa TIN problem, u should input the first 9 digit of the employees TIN same as sa employer pero u should put 0000 on the branch code of the employer since automatic nman po yong sa employee (depende na lang po kung ano ang branch code # nyo, but it should be 4 digits #)
Hi, Paano po ba ang correct format ng TIN? Always TIN cannot be empty and Error ang lumalabas pag ini enter. Thank You.
same problem here…
if you’re inputing individual just input the first 9 digit of your TIN (i.e: 123-456-789); you havve to put 00000 on the branch code since its individual, but if Non-Individual, supply the 9 digit to the TIN portion and the remaining digit should be supplied at branch code since, possible that it would be 0000, or (i.e: 00200).
Hi,
May I ask if pwede po ba n mag generate kami ng CSV file kahit hndi pa nemen nai aupdate lahat ng employees namen? nganun palang kasi kami mag uupdate. pwede po bang kahit partial namen iuupdate for ex. kahit 20 employees muna.? thanks everyone, hope you can help me.
Hi Everyone, just wanted to share iyong itinuro ng contact center ng BIR for those hindi makapaggenerate ng CSV file. Make sure that the calendar settings of your computer are as follows:
short date: M/d/yyyy
Long date: dddd, MMMM dd, yyyy
Click apply and ok
Repeat the process of generating CSV where in start date and end date is the current date
🙂
Kindly help naman po, lagi pong zero (0) bytes or blank CSV file ang nagegenerate ko. Pag chinechek ko nman po nag list of employee at BIR 2305 na form may data. Hindi po tuloy ako makapagvalidate at makapag e-sub. Thanks po in advance 🙂
Kindly help naman po, been generating CSV file pero lagi pong blank file or zero (0) bytes. Pag chinecheck ko ang list of employees and BIR 2305 may data naman po. what do I need to do para po hindi blank ang CSV file. Thanks po
hi po…try nyo po kung gagana…diba po pag naglog in tayo sa MS Access may mga UPDATE RECORDS po na nakalagay…try nyo po iclick un tapos open nyo ung isang record nyo then i save nyo po ulit..tapos try nyo po ulit mag generate ng csv file kung may lalabas na na data.
Good day! Ano po ba ang dapat na ilagay sa Effectivity Date and Effectivity Date of Excemption? Kasi, nilagay ko yung date ngayon or date of creation pero laging nag e-error ng “INVALID INPUT EFFECTIVITY DATE”. Please help. Thank you!
same prob po tayo
you need to create a user name first…click m yung 'Add User Name',
i tried adding user name and fill up the required data. however, when i clicked save, it’s not saving.
try nyo pong wag isali yung 'dash' (-)
nasolve na po ba itong prob nyo na 'to?
Hello po! Paano po ieenter ang TIN at telephone number invalid daw po kasi. Same lang nman po pag enter ko ng TIN number as the sample format pero TIN cannot be empty daw. Thank you po.
Hi, I am having problems in generating the CSV file. Entering the start and end date generates the CSV file but it does not have data in it.
Hi po, yan din po naeencounter ko na problem… nakapaggenerate na po ba kau? can you help me? Thanks
May I ask how did you generate the CSV file? I tried to enter June 1 as start date and June 30 for the end date, but the CSV file generated has no data in it.
Please help me how can I correct the validation error " NO detail record found in file". thank you.
I have microsoft access 2013.. i have downloaded already the BIRF2305.aacb .. when i open it and enter na user my nagpa'pop up.. "the text you entered isn't an item in the list." tapos can't type na.. help me po.. please. Thank you very much!
good morning po, ask ko lang bakit po magkaiba yung # ng employees kapag nagvalidate ako ng files compared dun sa na generate ko na files. magkapareho nmn sya ng date. thanks po.
Jade Jade relationship date po kung kelan nyo naging employee yung employee. Yung effectivity date, kung kelan po nagbago yung exemption nya, kung kelan effective, for example, kelan ba sya nag-kaanak.
Orlando O. Calundan, CPA sir thanks po for rply ok na po sa TIN, sa date nalang po kc pag wlang dependent at may dependent lagi po ako nalilito ung effective date po sa taas at ung relationship of date po at effectivity date dun po ako nagkakaroon ng error…ty
9 digits po ba nilagay nyo?
Kung ano po yung coverage ng isusubmit nyo po. Example, if ang isusubmit nyo ay month of June, then start June 1 at end June 30.
ano po ilalagay sa start date and end date sa generating report and generating csv report? thank u po
bakit po TIN should consists of 9 digits tama naman po ung tin number pls help po
Mari Con pag wala pong anak or dependent, anu po dapat ilagay?? saka po sa effectivity date of exemption??? please paisagot po, need po makapagsubmit na …
and sa relationship start date po ba ay yung kung klan nagstart ang contrata? like sa teachers, kung klan napa-in?
Date of birth po ng bunsong anak ng employee lagay mo mam
Date of birth po ng bunsong anak ng employee lagay mo mam
ano pa ba linalagay dun sa effective date? ung date na kung kelan ipapasa? tsaka nung nagpunta daw ako sa BIR main pra ipasa ung mga hardcopy nmin eh hinihingan ako ng alphalist at transmittal. sabi nila may kasamang sinend ung BIR sa email na alphalist eh wala nmn. san ba makakakuha nun? gagawa ba kami ng sarili format nun? salamat sa makakasagot
Have you found the solution yet? Same problem here. 🙁
Same problem here. 🙁
Is in direful need of your help, please. Why is it na sinasabi na "TIN CANNOT BE EMPTY" eventhough nakafilled-in naman po siya? Please please help po, I've been trying to do it for three days but i just get the same result. Your answer is very much appreciated po. Thank you so much.
Hi po, example po yung bagong employer ko pinapapasa aq ng 2305,e d pa po aq employed ngayon sa june pa..cla nb maglalakad nung 2305 ko…change status lng naman..ano po ba ggawin ko?
sav po kc sa BIR n pinunthan ko,dunq dw isubmit ung marriage contract q at cla na ang magbbgay s knila kc online na nga,..pano po ba..
Sir/Ma’am, nag create po ako ng new user ng company namin..the problem is, hindi po ako maka log-in..sabi dun “enter text that matches one of the listed items”..i created another one pero ganun pa din po..
please help 🙂
EDGAR DIMLA, your a great HELP! Thanks muchos!
paano po kapag wala namang pinagbago sa mga list ng employees need pa din ba magsubmit ng 2305 nila together with the birth certificates po nila? or no need na po?
Been trying this for 3 days already but still unsuccessful. Nakakawindang lang un mga details na dapat i-fill up. Maybe its the reason for the error and why I cannot generate the report, it is always invalid. 🙁
Gess Francisco
hi good afternoon bakit po ganon pag naglalagay ako ng date sa effective date nag iinvalid po? ano po ba dapat na ilalagay na date?
Pag 32bit po un windows un .exe lang pero kung 64bit un pong may x64.exe ang install nyo.
hi Sir ano po dapat kong i-download? accessruntime.exe or accessruntime_x64.exe?
Good afternoon po! Sir, inquire lang po bakit po kaya di ako maka-add ng user lagi pong sinasabi na "TIN cannot be empty" e nakafill-in n rin po ung TIN? ano po kayang problema? Thanks po!
Question mga sir, CSV file po ba is talagang excel file sya? nakapag generate ako ng CSV but excel file sya and if yes po naman, yun na talaga sya? yun na yung sesend ko sa email ng BIR?
and my mga naencounter din akong problem sa pag create ng employees namin, bagong download lang kasi itong module namin so ginagawan ko pa lahat ng employees namin ng file sa module, ang problem is yung "effective date", "relationship start date" and "effectivity date of exemption", laging error nalabas, ano ba yang date na yan? anong format etc? di ko kasi maregister mga employee e lalo na yung mga married with dependent, thanks sa mga sasagot
Bakit po may nagpa-pop up padin na "TIN cannot be empty." , e tama naman yung Tin number na nilagay ko?
hi! we manage to fix on our part. just redo the form
Arlyn Balicot , ive tried ung suggestion mo pero wala padin nangyayari…wala padin laman…
Arlyn Balicot , ive tried ung suggestion mo pero wala padin nangyayari…wala padin laman…
same prob 🙁
or if you do not have the License for Microsoft Access (dahil medyo mahal) you may install the MS Access Runtime 2010 from here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ph/download/details.aspx?id=10910
For those without Microsoft Access (kasi kailangan ng License), you may download the free Microsoft Access Runtime 2010 from the microsoft website here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ph/download/details.aspx?id=10910
Pwede po yan, install lang po kayo ng Microsoft Access Runtime. Free po yan di na kailangan ng License from Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ph/download/details.aspx?id=10910
Install po kayo ng Microsoft Access Runtime, downloadable po free from Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ph/download/details.aspx?id=10910
bakit po walang laman yung csv file, may data naman po yung database at yung ibang report except sa csv file thanks po sa makaka tulong
ako rin ganyan ang problema..
Arlyn Balicot Alright, yung first three report ko na nasubmit hindi ko sya navalidate. Pano kaya yon? Then yung problem ko ngayon is yung mga bagong input ko hindi lumalabas. Can you help me? thanks.
Elson Miguel Sanchez ito yung nag vavalidate nag inireport mong records from the microsoft access. aside nung uee mode mo mag ddownload ka pa ng ganito http://www.bir.gov.ph/images/bir_files/downloadables/BIRF2305/BIRF2305ValidationM.exe para i validate yung report na ginawa mo.. yan yung BIRF2305 validation module
Does it mean na kelangan ko muna ivalidate thru 2305 validation module yung nagenerate kong csv file before ko sya i-email? please reply po. thank you.
Arlyn Balicot Hi. Para saan yung 2305 validation module? UEE Mode lang kasi ginagamit ko before e. Bukod don, d ko din makita yung mga bagong iniinput ko sa UEE Module. Pano yun?
sir mam bakit pag nag vavalidate po ng module na csv eh ang luma labas ay ROW ERROR DESCRIPTION
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0000000001 No detail record found in file.
SUMMARY REPORT
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ROW ERROR DESCRIPTION
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COUNT DESCRIPTION
—– ————————————————–
1 TOTAL NUMBER OF RECORDS READ
1 VALID RECORDS
0 INVALID RECORDS
Gandyan din problem ko. Di ako maka add user. Ni-fill out ko na lahat then click save button pero walang nang yayari
hi good afternoon bakit po ganon pag naglalagay ako ng date sa effective date nag iinvalid po? ano po ba dapat na ilalagay na date?
You need to have a Microsoft Access software in your computer
Hindi ko sya ma-open gamit ko po ay Windows 7
Mark Anthony Tonic I knew how to resolve this.. but you will restore database and then start to input or add new record (yung mga ininput mu na hindi na read, i input mu ulit (i'm talking to the BIRF2305 microsoft access) then after you re-input it generate the CSV file and then go to BIRF2305 validation module to validate your report.
Edgardo Aram Pena I also have the same problem. Pls inform me if you already fix this problem. Thank you.
enable editing
enable editing
try to open the orig. accb file and log-in.
try to open the orig. accb file and log-in.
We have the same problem until now hindi parin ma-solve. Pls inform me when you already fix this issue. Tnx.
We have the same problem until now hindi parin ma-solve. Pls inform me when you already fix this issue. Tnx.
Date of birth po ng bunsong anak ng employee lagay mo mam.
Edgar Dimla ok xa sa windows 8? Cant create username it says "TIN CANNOT BE EMPTY" peru naka filed out naman ung Tin number namin (employer number). You think system namin my problema?
Orlando O. Calundan Hi Sir, same po kami ng problem ni Ms. Joy Lim Osmillo. Pag nag generate po ng CSV file wala po laman so pag nag validate po wala din laman pero ung ibang report po like "List of Employees" and "Bir Form No. 2305" may laman po. Ask ko lang po sana Sir kung nakakapag generate po kayo ng CSV file na may laman. Thank You.
same problem… pls let me know if you were able to fix your problem regarding this.. i need help din. thanks
hello po baka pwede pa help how to download bir 2305? d mag tuloy mag open.
hi good am po. I need clarification po. Yung mga may updates lang po ang required na ipareceive sa BIR?
Help po…already save the reports pero pag navalidate 0 total number of record read???and also i already generate the CSV file na ivavalidate. please hepl po..
kamusta ang pag add user? hindi din ako maka LOG IN, several times na
tanong lng po hndi q po masimulan..nakalaga sa job aide? after maddl ng BIRF2305.aacb? open? unrecognized data lumalabas panu po un?
hi sir,
i'ev been downloading the data entry module.. since last year.. but still i can't open it.. what should i do??
thanks.
hndi po ako maka.log.in kahit tapos nah akong nag.add user. help po please
hindi po ba puede sa microsoft windows 7?
hindi makalogin after mag add user. how to fix this? or maybe naka read only lng sya kaya lahat ng inadd na user nde nag rereflect sa database?
Edgar Dimla pano pokung single?
TPOS NA PO AQ MAG ENCODESAVE NA YUNG FILEPERUNUNG EOPEN Q NA SA LOCAL DISK C LA PO LAMAN..HELP PLZ
Philippine Accounting Updates Bakit po ganun, hindi pa rin po ako makapag create ng user account..i already opened the module, then put everything on it (First name, Middle name, last name etc etc until sa last which is the telephone # pero hanggang dun lang, walang nag pop out whats next or what or walang nag appear like sa job aid na mag ask to save..why?
Pag na-enter na po di na maeedit. Dapat make sure na tama yung nilalagay natin. Try nyo po delete na lang employee then add them again.
Naggenerate po ba kayo ng CSV file na ivavalidate?
Help po…already save the reports pero pag navalidate 0 total number of record read???
pano po mag edit ng birthdate? saka tin ng employee? salamat po
BKIT gnon, nilagay q s effectivity date of exemption e date hired bkit ng error at ung effective date mali din ang inilagay q date ngaun dec 18, 2015 bt mali.. ska kaylangan ba lahat ng employee my email address pno kung wla cla ?
bakit po kahit may nakalagay na ako effective date di pa rin ma save un sa data entry module ng 2305?
yes po, pls help..thanks.
need help how to download bir2305.exe
Edgar Dimla THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH…………. AT LAST!!!!
http://www.access-diva.com/d5.html
Check niyo po diyan, sana makatulong 🙂
Edgar Dimla thanks so much for the info.
Yung may update lang, pag wala po eh di na required magpasa.
Edgar Dimla i cared to log in just to say… SUPER THANK YOU!^_^ your answer did help. God bless!
we can't access po the file. may nagpapop-up po na ganito;
Your Microsoft Access database or project contains a missing or broken reference to the file '2' version 1.0
need help po. thanks.
need help on how to download the BIR Form 2305 Data Entry Module?
Effectivity is when is the last birthday of your recent child. hope it helps
Microsoft Office 2010 or higher
Effectivity is when is the last birthday of your recent child. hope it helps.
Need to know when is the effectivity of the new ruling?
Hi, I was wondering what application is supposed to support the .accdb module? Been trying to launch it to no avail.. 🙁
In need of clarification po please 🙂
Lahat ba ng ng employees need ilagay? para yung kasi ginagawa ng iba. or yung need lang ng update?
if wala naman need iupdate need parin ba mgpasa?
We already downloaded the updated version of your system but we still cannot save the new user data. Is there any possible option for us to resolve this problem?
We already downloaded the updated version of your system but we still cannot save the new user data. Is there any possible option for us to resolve this problem?
Philippine Accounting Updates hi, would like to know if you can send me the link of the new version? I've been downloading it since. I can't seem to open it. Thanks.
See job aid.
Effectivity is when the change in status took place. Have you tried redownloading the program? There's a new version of it.
what should be the effective date when adding an employee? i cannot save even i change the effectivity date 🙁
how to create a user account?
The microsoft access file doesn't need to be installed. If you are installing the .exe file (validation module) and there is a problem, it might not be compatible with your computer. Check the system requirements and ensure that you are compliant with such.
how to install this program? Dont know what to do. I been installing it 3 days pa. Till now di pa rin po mainstall. There some technicality issue in the windows and microsoft that im using. Thanks